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My first English silver thimble with a wide scenic band in relief, was the one I bought for 'Windsor' and having done a bit of research, this seems to be the most popular design of this type of thimble, with many examples still in existence.
Recently I was a very lucky girl when I received a thimble from a non-thimble friend [thanks Phil] - he found a treasure for me on a recent visit to South Africa. There is no lettering to identify the scene, but it shows a bridge scene on a very wide band, on a typical tall, narrow Victorian thimble. It turns out to be the Menai Bridge scene and in contrast to my first purchase, this is a rare example.
I think two of these wonderful old thimbles is enough for my collection but it's been fun looking for what else was made and I hope you'll enjoy this small journey.

Once my interest had been aroused, the hunt was on for more photo examples of these thimbles. I have been amazed at the range of thimbles made of the same scene or pictorial. The scenes include stately homes, palaces, bridges, castles and exhibition buildings and the picture wraps right around the thimble. I have included a photo of some of the buildings so that this may help with identification of your thimble. It would be wonderful to have photos of all the views around the thimbles, and maybe you can help here?
There are different widths in the bands and my guess is that the wider the band, the earlier the thimble. Some scenes are banded by a plain narrow groove on each side - some have no upper groove separating the scene from the indentations.

These scenic thimbles predate the placename thimbles of the 1820s which only have the names lettered around the thimbles with no actual scene - but all reflect the idea of taking a souvenir home, first made popular by the Victorians. The thimbles of this study would originate from the 1840s onwards.

Some of these thimbles are lettered with the name of the scene around the rim or within the scene [eg Windsor] and many have the date included in this lettering. This qualifies them as commemoratives as well.

There was no evidence as to the maker/s of these thimbles, when I started working on this topic - mostly they have no hallmarks nor any maker's marks. I wonder if there was more that one thimble manufacturer making these thimbles in Victorian England?
Slowly pieces of the jigsaw puzzle are emerging and many of the makers are now known - thanks to the excellent research by Norma Spicer and Diane Pelham Burn.
I had heard the name of Nathaniel Mills associated with the English scenic thimbles but there is nothing in the thimble literature at this stage to confirm this.
There are a hallmarked thimbles from a London assay for Osborne House and Windsor Castle by Samuel Foskett. He would have been one of the later makers as is George Unite.

On re-reading Norma Spicer's booklet on British registered designs, it is interesting to note that some of these scenic thimbles have a diamond-shaped registration mark placed on the thimble. In England between 1842 and 1883, registered designs carried a mark to denote registration date of a design. As these had to be registered, the name of the thimble maker may be found.
Alfred Taylor registered the 'Exhibition of All Nations 1851' design and he in fact also made the thimbles!
Henry Griffith registered his design for and made the thimbles for some of the 'International Exhibition 1862' thimbles.
There are two designs for the 1862 exhibition and the 2nd one - where the mark appears on the thimbles - was also registered. They were made by George Cartwright and Horace Woodward. I highly recommend Spicer's booklet on the registered designs to you.

I have followed the lettering from the thimble for the alphabetical listing, so the same building or scene may be in more than one place below - I have put in a cross-reference where applicable.
The brief description of the building or place is not meant to be definitive, but I have added a date into the description where relevant the the 19th C.

Edwin Holmes indicates that there is a difference in the manufacture of the range of scenic thimbles. The earlier thimbles [cathedrals and buildings] were designed on a flat piece of silver, which were then rolled into a cylinder, seamed, with the apex added in last.
The later ones made towards the end of the 19th C are deep drawn and then the design is stamped on the thimble shape. These are shorter in height than the earlier thimbles and flatter at the apex, with the lettering around the band. As most of these are not hallmarked, they would probably have been made in the late 1870s and early 1880s [after which hallmarking for thimbles became obligatory in England].

The thimbles are made of sterling silver unless stated otherwise. I have not been able to find any mention of English gold or brass scenic thimbles.

The commemorative thimbles for Victorian royalty are outside of this study, as well as pictorial thimbles from other countries and from other eras.

Some of the scenes are unknown and I can find no help in finding them in the thimble literature. I have placed these under "Unknown" and look forward to your help in identifying them, please.


A - B - C - D - E - F - G - H - I - J - K - L - M - N - O - P - Q - R - S - T - U - V - W - X - Y - Z - Unknown

A Present from the Isle of Wight
Queen Victoria's home Osborne House, was completed in 1851
see also: Osborne House


medium band
lettering around the rim

A View of the Tower Rosherville Gardens
opened in 1838, on the Thames, at Northfleet in Gravesend, Kent


wide band
lettering around the rim
1840s

Abbotsford House
Sir Walter Scott's home in Melrose Scotland was completed in 1824
see also: Walr Scott


wide band

Balmoral Castle The Queen's Highland Home
in Scotland, purchased by Queen Victoria in 1848


medium band
lettering around rim

medium band
lettering around rim
verso

Brighton Chain Pier
the pier was built in 1823


wide band

medium band

medium band
patterned rim

medium band
fingerguard

Brighton Pavilion
finished in 1822 for the Prince Regent who became George IV
also known as the Royal Pavilion at Brighton


wide band

medium band

medium band
with beaded edging

medium band
additional lettering "Gift from Brighton"

medium band
fingerguard

medium band
scene is upside down


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Crystal Palace
built in Hyde Park, London in 1851
see also: Exhibition of All Nations ...;
and
Great Exhibition ...


wide band
trees in scene
faceted rim

narrow band
shows flags
patterned band at rim

Crystal Palace Sydenham
the Crystal Palace was moved to Sydenham, for the 1854 Exhibition


medium band
lettering around rim

medium band
lettering around rim

Dover Castle


very wide band

very wide band
lettering above scene

very wide band
lettering above scene
faceted rim

very narrow band
lettering
faceted rim

Dublin Exhibition 1853
also known as the Great Industrial Exhibition


medium band
lettering around rim

Exeter Cathedral
in Devon


medium band
lettering around rim
additional lettering - "Comb Martin silver"
I wonder what the significance of this Devon silver was?

Exhibition of All Nations 1851
held in Hyde Park, London
the design was registered by Alfred Taylor [#73871] - he made the thimbles as well
see also: Crystal Palace
and
Great Exhibition ...


wide band
lettering above scene
with a diamond-shaped registration date lozenge

wide band
lettering above scene
faceted rim

medium band
lettering above scene
rolled rim

narrow band
lettering above scene
flags seem more prominent


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Great Exhibition Hyde Park 1851
London
see also: Crystal Palace
and
Exhibition of All Nations


wide band
lettering around rim

medium band
lettering around rim

narrow band
lettering around rim

narrow band
lettering around rim
showing the long building & some trees

International Exhibition 1862
held in South Kensington, London
George Cartwright and Horace Woodward registered the design [#143397] of this thimble and this mark is on the actual thimble


medium band
lettering above scene
with a diamond-shaped registration date lozenge

medium band
lettering around rim
with a diamond-shaped registration date lozenge

medium band
lettering around rim

medium band
lettering around rim

Henry Griffith registered the design of this thimble #139132 but the registered mark never appeared on his thimbles


photo: Norma Spicer
narrow band
lettering on verso
patterned rim

Kenilworth Castle
in Warwickshire


medium band
lettering around rim

Lichfield Cathedral
in Staffordshire - well known for its three spires


wide band
with trees completing the scene

medium band
lettering around rim

Menai Bridge
opened in 1825 the bridge links Anglesey to to the Welsh mainland


wide band


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Newstead Abbey
in Nottinghamshire, originally an Augustinian Priory, it is most known as the home of Lord Byron


medium band
surrounded by trees

medium band
surrounded by trees
faceted rim

Osborne House Isle of Wight
Queen Victoria's home was completed in 1851
see also: A Present from the Isle of Wight


narrow band
lettering around rim

narrow band
lettering around rim
Samuel Foskett - London

Peterborough Cathedral


photo: Norma Spicer
medium band
lettering around rim

Royal Arsenal Woolwich
on the River Thames at Woolwich, London


medium band
lettering around rim

Thames Tunnel Opened Mar 25 1843
commemorates the first bridge by Brunel - ever to go under a river - from Rotherhithe to Wapping, London


very wide band
lettering on verso

Thames Waterloo Bridge Blackfriars Southwark London Bridges
Waterloo Bridge opened in 1817 - Blackfriars in 1769 - Southwark in 1819


medium band

The Novelty Train
in 1804 Richard Trevithick built a stage coach with steam engine as the first locomotive to run on tracks
It would take a Victorian train expert to distinguish between the locomotives of Trevithick and Stephenson - please help!


narrow band

The Rocket
in 1829 Robert Stephenson built a locomotive steam engine
It would take a Victorian train expert to distinguish between the locomotives of Trevithick and Stephenson - please help!!


narrow band
faceted rim

narrow band
patterned rim
the scene is patterned over striations
I am uncertain as to which train this is?

Tintern Abbey
in Monmouthshire


narrow band
lettering around rim


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Visited the Double Tunnel 26 July 1843
this commemorates the visit by Queen Victoria to the new Brunel tunnel under the Thames, London


medium band
lettering on verso
profile of Queen Victoria

Walr Scott
see also: Abbotsford House


medium band
lettering around rim

Wellington September 14 1852
this commemorates the death of Arthur Wellesley, the 1st Duke of Wellington


medium band
lettering around rim

Westminster Abbey
where monarchs have their coronations, London


wide band

Windsor/Windsor Castle
one of the homes of British monarchs, to the west London


wide band
lettering above scene 'Windsor'

wide band
surrounded by trees


wide band
lettering above scene 'Windsor'
faceted rim

wide band
lettering above scene 'Windsor'

wide band

medium band
lettering above scene 'Windsor'

medium band
lettering around rim
Chester - 1889

medium band
lettering around rim 'Windsor'
fingerguard

narrow band
lettering around rim

narrow band
lettering around rim

narrow band
lettering around rim
Samuel Foskett - London - 1894


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Unknown scenes

boat on river - I
is this a paddlesteamer on the Thames?


medium band

medium band

boat on river - II
different from the scene above


medium band

breakwater


medium band

cathedral
this could be Canterbury Cathedral


wide band

train on bridge


medium band
George Unite
silver-gilt

wave-lashed seawall with steamship and rowboat


medium band

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DO YOU KNOW ANY MORE DETAILS ABOUT VICTORIAN SILVER SCENIC THIMBLES?
DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER VICTORIAN SILVER SCENIC THIMBLES NOT MENTIONED, PICTURED or a CLEARER PICTURE?
CAN YOU HELP IDENTIFY THE THIMBLE SCENES IN THE "UNKNOWN" SECTION?

EMAIL thimbleselect@bigpond.com TO SHARE YOUR KNOWLEDGE.


Bibliography
Holmes, Edwin The history of thimbles. 1986
McConnel, Bridget The story of the thimble. 1997
McConnel, Bridget The train thimble. Thimble Society of London, vol.4, no.3, summer 1991. p.9
Pearce, Molly The Thames Tunnel. At Your Fingertips, vol.23, no.3, January 2008. p12-15
Spicer, Norma and Pelham Burn, Dianne Bristish registered design thimbles. 2003
Spicer, Norma Our mystery building – it defies identification. TCI Bulletin, spring 2005. p.8
Spicer, Norma Royal connections. At Your Fingertips, vol.22, no.2, September 2006. p.8-9
Thimble Society [of London] catalogues


Contributors
Ewan - Kit Froebel - William Isbister - Ray Nimmo - Norma Spicer



This listing of Victorian Silver Scenic Thimbles does not purport to be complete or accurate in all aspects.
Rather it invites comment and contribution to add to our knowledge. My thanks to the contributors.

Enjoy!

© Sue Gowan
January 2008


THERE ARE 32 "LEARN MORE ABOUT..." TOPICS
Brass Advertising | British Placenames | British Royalty on Thimbles | British Silversmiths | Charles May | Christmas | Coalport
Dorcas Thimble Boxes | Easter | Gadgets | Francesca | Hallmarked Thimbles set | 'Mother' | The World's Greatest Porcelain Houses
Royal Albert | Royal Crown Derby | Royal Doulton | Royal Worcester Handpainted Thimbles
Royal Worcester Decal Thimbles | S + H Foskett | Silver Advertising Thimbles | Spode | Stratnoid | SylvaC
Thimble Books | Thimble Collectors Club | Thimble Societies | Thimbles with Slogans
Thimblefuls | Victorian Silver Scenic Thimbles | Wedgwood Jasperware | Wedgwood Bone China

THERE ARE 22 PAGES OF THIMBLES & OTHER ITEMS TO BUY
aluminium 1 - books 1 - brass 1 - china 6 - display cases 1
gold 1 - needlework tools 2 - other collectables 1 - pewter 1 - plastic 1
silver 3 - steel & metal 1 - unusual materials 1 - wood 1

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thimbleselect@bigpond.com
I do not offer any type of valuation or advice on prices.

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